Zola Jesus Band Interview

“There are plenty of people doing completely novel, transgressive things, but no one knows because it is too esoteric or inaccessible.”
Nika Roza Danilova

At a little over five feet tall and barely over legal drinking age, the woman behind Zola Jesus, Nika Roza Danilova, wields surprising power. The release of her latest EP, Stridulum, has placed her in a strange position; she now finds herself opening for indie rock powerhouses like The xx, Wolf Parade, and Fever Ray, on tour dates throughout the world. The growth has been rapid, and Danilova has accumulated a diverse array of fans along the way. Those who are drawn to her beauty-meets-darkness, pop-meets-brutality style acknowledge readily that she has a presence. Even on a virtual front, she seems like an intimidating, powerful figure; her public-facing self is meticulously honed to a degree that makes her seem difficult to approach, but this image is very much an extension of the complexity of her as a person. Such complexity is what makes the music and aesthetic of Zola Jesus so fascinating.

Ostensibly, for instance, Zola Jesus may seem largely defined by gothic and industrial music and fashion. The music videos for “Night” and “Clay Bodies” feature, respectively, whopping doses of black nail polish and buildings with vaulted Gothic ceilings. But it is not simply a blind adherence to that aesthetic style that shapes the musical project; just as important — if not more so — are factors such as Danilova’s schooling. She is double-majoring in French and Philosophy, and philosophical ideas lie very much at the core of Zola Jesus.

“Philosophy and any scholarly pursuits have a sort of osmotic influence on my music,” she explains. “When I’m songwriting, I’m not pulling from anything specific other than my own person, impacted by all these forces collectively.”

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Danilova is also a formally trained opera singer — a period of her life which has transformed her into a self-described perfectionist. Years later, she is still constantly struggling with her perception of herself. Zola Jesus serves as an outlet for Danilova to stray from her strict opera training, but even that freedom does not free Danilova from her self-criticism.

“I couldn’t handle having to constantly scrutinize my voice, something that I could refine to an extent but could never completely change,” reveals Danilova. “It destroyed my confidence. I never felt like I was good enough. That hasn’t changed… Whenever I perform or write a song, I feel like it can always be better… “

In a live setting, Danilova has learned to rely on the consistent help of others — a collaboration which helps ease the burden of responsibility off of her alone. When Zola Jesus first began performing, the performances were highly improvisational, featuring guest musicians who were residents of the city Zola Jesus happened to be performing in each evening. Danilova now works with the same core backing band, although the number of members fluctuates between one and four from show to show. The set listings change accordingly as well, bouncing the vibe of each show between lighter, almost R&B vibes and darker, more industrial vibes, depending on the band’s lineup.

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Danilova’s ability to create unusual pop music seems to allow her a bit of stylistic leeway during live performances. One would be hard-pressed to believe that Danilova, clad beneath a veneer of glam-goth fashion, would be openly receptive to Top 40s radio, but she is.

“I love pop music because it has to speak to everyone, and it’s always exciting to see how certain musicians weave esoteric, experimental ideas and methods into accessible pop songs,” she says. “Sometimes when I listen to the radio, I’m blown away by the things Billboard artists are getting away with — not just lyrically, but in the song structures and sounds. No one even notices.”

Not that one would likely hear Zola Jesus’ music on mainstream radio. Many of her songs are unintelligible lyrically and snuffed sonically by atmospherics and reverb. For Danilova, though, her music is still pop, and there are a variety of different routes one can take to creating pop music. The end result is the important part. “It doesn’t matter how you get there; it’s just how it hits you,” she states. “The songs need to ring throughout your brain the second after it ends. You need to be singing them in your sleep…”

While Danilova’s earlier material would be accurately described as noisy and lo-fi, Stridulum is gentler and more refined in its delivery. Danilova shuns expectations by approaching her musical project with a basic philosophical idea: to create art which has never been created before. She has a remarkably optimistic view on the future of music, and rebels philosophically against the concept that truly novel art is no longer possible in this day and age of mass creation.

“There are plenty of people doing completely novel, transgressive things, but no one knows because it is too esoteric or inaccessible,” states Danilova. “I believe [that] artistic apathy is stunting our society [from moving] forward… But things have changed; things will continue to change. It’s just a matter of being able to accept new ideas on a massive scale, which I think is our bigger problem.”

The future of Zola Jesus is undeniably full of growth and change. A video for “Sea Talk” is in the works, and the Valusia EP comes out in fall of 2010, amidst a significant string of heavy-hitting tour dates. Through it all, Danilova will be at the forefront, her unrivaled artistic vision and strong philosophical ideals blazing the path every step of the way.

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Vee Hua 華婷婷

Vee Hua 華婷婷 (they/them) is a writer, filmmaker, and organizer with semi-nomadic tendencies. Much of their work unifies their metaphysical interests with their belief that art can positively transform the self and society. They are the Editor-in-Chief of REDEFINE, Interim Managing Editor of South Seattle Emerald, and Co-Chair of the Seattle Arts Commission. They also previously served as the Executive Director of the interdisciplinary community hub, Northwest Film Forum, where they played a key role in making the space more welcoming and accessible for diverse audiences.

Vee has two narrative short films. Searching Skies (2017) touches on Syrian refugee resettlement in the United States; with it, they helped co-organize The Seventh Art Stand, a national film and civil rights discussion series against Islamophobia. Reckless Spirits (2022) is a metaphysical, multi-lingual POC buddy comedy for a bleak new era, in anticipation of a feature-length project.

Vee is passionate about cultural space, the environment, and finding ways to covertly and overtly disrupt oppressive structures. They also regularly share observational human stories through their storytelling newsletter, RAMBLIN’ WITH VEE!, and are pursuing a Master’s in Tribal Resource and Environmental Stewardship under the Native American Studies Department at the University of Minnesota.

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